Re: RPGs, Collaberation and Kayfabe

by Bluemouse Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:29 pm

*rolls dice*

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by hamish1024 Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:18 pm

Blue knows that dice rolls are exciting.

To be honest I have no experience of online RPGs so I donâ€

t know which approach would be best. If the dice can be rolled easily and without contention then I guess that saves the GM a job. As Kitten says, it lets you be more tactical if you know how well the match is going.

In terms of the system - the full Kayfabe RPG has 4 skill areas - Wrestling, Mic Skills, Work Rate and Clout. Clout was just a measure of backstage influence (spending it like currency when you want to pull favours with the GM), so if you were streamlining the systems for online play, I figured it would be the first to go - Clout can just be abstracted into the GM characterâ€

s own RPâ€

ing (if your wrestler keeps screwing over other wrestlers and not sticking to the script, they will naturally get a bad reputation with management, and it would be the GMâ€˜s job to RP that).

Work Rate felt pretty underused - a measure of a wrestlerâ€

s ring psychology, it was mainly used for deciding who got control of the narrative if there was a disagreement, but very little else. So I thought if you kept the ring psychology element, but extended it to use with any non-wrestling drama (I.e. hentai or cat fighting (which you might want more of in an all female league)) as a more general â€˜Actingâ€

, it might be more useful.

Though I can see why, with the name â€˜Actingâ€

, it does seem like you could merge it with Mic Skills to have just two skill areas. Maybe that would be too few, though. I think there is room to separate physical acting skill in the ring, and general charisma with a microphone.

by Kitten Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:56 pm

Maybe you could have:

Wrestling
Charisma
Psychology (as in ring psychology)

Some wrestlers have great Psychology but no Charisma or Mic Skills.

by hamish1024 Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:48 pm

[quote="Kitten":v9yeocx4]Maybe you could have:

Wrestling
Charisma
Psychology (as in ring psychology)

Some wrestlers have great Psychology but no Charisma or Mic Skills.

Yeah that makes sense and feels balanced. Wrestling for most in-ring action (and occasionally deciding physical contests). Psychology for any non-wrestling drama in the ring (not necessarily just for the hentai girls) plus gaining control of the match flow if its undecided. Charisma for interviews / promos, plus anything where you need to convince other chars.

by hamish1024 Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:21 pm

OK, so if we are reducing the primary skills to wrestling, ring psychology and charisma, that affects the number of points you get for character creation.

So rookies get 9 points to distribute amongst the 3 skills, and experienced wrestlers get 13. So rookies start pretty average (and risk putting on a few dud performances), but can develop their stats over time.

For the game, each player would have one experienced wrestler and a few rookies. Itâ€

s not a problem if your multiple characters end up scheduled to fight each other, as the GM can take control of one.

I wonâ€

t post the whole Kayfabe section on character creation (if anyone is interested they can PM me). The main shtick is that you are playing a character playing a wrestler - so each girl needs a real-life bio, with their ring gimmick kept separate.

On top of the 3 skill stats, then, a girl needs a ring gimmick and a face/heel nomination, a named finishing move (which nets +5D6 when used), and one or two trademark moves (which net +2D6). In the best wrestling tradition, of course, the ring gimmick will probably change over time to keep it fresh.

Finally, the character has a number of Assets and Flaws (taking the same number of each at creation). These apply to the real-life character (NOT the gimmick persona), so they can include behind-the-scenes stuff and professional connections.

Assets are mostly either additional starting popularity (+5 Heat), additional trait points, or +2D6 for specialisation in particular move sets (e.g. High Flying, Submission, Power Moves etc).

I was thinking that, as itâ€

s AFW, you would also want Assets like â€

Hentai Wrestlerâ€

- so if a section of the match was basically porn rather than wrestling, you would use the Psychology trait to sell it, and +2D6 if you had the hentai Asset. Similarly, a Catfighting Asset for when the move set was largely non-wrestling slaps or spanks.

For the Flaws which hinder a character, â€

Dislikes Hentaiâ€

could be a valid counterpoint.

by Bluemouse Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:44 pm

I think you've got it backwards. "Dislikes hentai" is definitely an asset.

by Alexandra Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:50 pm

Flung you a PM about this, 'mishy.

by hamish1024 Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:20 pm

[quote="Bluemouse":qs3tw7of]I think you've got it backwards. "Dislikes hentai" is definitely an asset.

Heh, I knew youâ€

d say that. And honestly, I do feel a bit bad suggesting that â€œreluctant to get her tits out in publicâ€ is some kind of character flaw.

Obviously, the base game is not geared for hentai at all. Iâ€

m not sure that the mechanics would fully support all-out, hardcore pornographic hentai matches anyway. I think the league would actually need to be based on actual wrestling contentâ€¦ whilst leaving scope for those who want to add kinkier sections to their matches.

As it stands with the current suggested rules, hentai is something you can throw into a match as a relatively easy way to generate Heat, especially for characters with low wrestling but good ring psychology skills. But you should be able to work without it.

In fact, gameplay-wise, â€œDislikes Hentaiâ€ could be a pretty good flaw to take, if you simply offset it with a bonus to wrestling, and then concentrate on that, you wonâ€

t get hindered by your â€œflawâ€ at all.

by Bluemouse Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:27 pm

I knew you knew I'd say that. I didn't want to disappoint.

And yeah, I imagine heterosexual girls are ridiculed at Friction. Also, girls that don't want to nude up and have sex on camera. What's even their deal?

by Tatyina Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:49 pm

srsly. what IS their deal? <img src=

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