Re: Topic: Wrestling?

by LARIATO Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:00 am

Totally forgot to talk about NJPW's U.S. shows from a little over a week ago, but here it is for whoever's interested.

Night 1:

Night 2:

by Harrier Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:33 am

Oh my, I just hope RR wins next week against Samoa Joe. I am so sick and tired of waiting for the match against Brock Lesnar. I just want it to be over, kind of like waiting at the dentist...

by Alexandra Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:38 am

I just want Brock to get bored of wrestling and go away forever. :V

by Mystery Dragon Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:10 am

Alexandra wrote:I just want Brock to get bored of wrestling and go away forever. :V

His contract is ending after WrestleMania so unless he renews (Which so far he hasn't shown much of an interest in doing, he seems ready to settle down and be a family man) You'll get your wish. Also I'm pretty sure this match will get interrupted by our weekly does of Braun and become a fatal four way.

by Harrier Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:24 am

Brock Lesnar could indeed show a little bit more in the ring. He can do better, he obviously just does not need to and so it is a german suplex festival with the occasional slam then and when. That was absolutely fun when he used it against Cena and in the next matches after that, but it indeed gets old after some years. I am not waiting for him to do the Moonsault from the top rope, but some suplex variety could not hurt either.

by M.J.Caboose14 Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:44 pm

I'm starting to think The broken gimmick is gonna involve Finn Balor considering how much they're interacting lately

THOUGHTS!?

Also good thoughts on the NJWP ppv Lariato. I thought it was pretty cool

by **Old_Man_Tai** Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:15 pm

Lotta saltyness in this thread recently.

So am I the only one who actually enjoyed Great Balls of Fire and Joe vs Lesnar?

WWE finally figured out the formula for 1 on 1 Brock Lesnar matches. No bullshitting around with minor moves or lock ups or whatever, you treat Brock Lesnar as the Final Boss Monster he is, and you fucking smash and attack him with your best shit, right off the bat.

"But Tai, Joe only used like three moves!"

...and they were moves that WWE has shown to be his biggest moves, his impeccable striking, his Uranage slam, and the attempts at the Coquina Clutch.

"But Lesnar only did two moves!"

...yes, and those moves defeated The Undertaker, Cena, Orton, Ambrose, and Batman. Like, Lesnars last two matches have been the most exciting and entertaining of his career, and frankly, I don't subscribe to the "MOAR MOVES EQUALS BEST WRESTLER!" mindset that the indy scene has given everybody.

Like seriously, none of you would have enjoyed wrestling in the 80s. At all. There was like, 6 moves total, and one of them was posing.

As for people being pissed at the ending, bah. I loved it. It's been fucking FOREVER since I've seen a main event end with one finisher. I get that sometimes, on big events, in biggest matches on said big events, having multiple finishers is fun and exciting, but holy shit is it overblown as fuck.

Plus, I love that, rather than just conclusively end Joe there, the story was that Brock basically got lucky as fuck, caught Joe with a desperation F-5, and that was enough of a surprise to keep him down for a 3 count. Also that Ambulance match was fucking awesome, Brauns going places, Braun won, Braun didn't get buried or jobbed out (...which will do NOTHING to keep people from bitching that he was), and Reigns was in complete heel mode on monday, which was enjoyable as fuck to see.

I had fun, I was sports entertained, and so far I'm looking forward to Summer Splash.

ENJOY YA SALT, #HEELTAI OUT!

by M.J.Caboose14 Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:18 pm

But Tai! More moves means longer and better matches!!!

That's the reason I love NJWP so much!

by Harrier Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:16 pm

As we are on memory lane already:
The leg drop defeated Sting, Flair, Yokozuna, Earthquake, Seargant Slaughter, the Undertaker and Sid Vicious. Hogan was massively over the first time when he was red and yellow Hogan, although he most of the time did bodyslams and clotheslines in his matches. Does that mean that he just should have done clotheslines and wait until his oponent rolls over for the leg drop? I was a massive Hogan fan when I was young(until he costed Sid Justice, a fellow face and ally at this time, the RR win), but in retrospective I see that he was living from his charisma, kayfabe and intensity alone, he would never get over in an environment that loves workrates, sculpted bodies and scripted promos.

The offense people could show against Cena and Hogan for example was ridiculous. Cena and Hogan were eating damage left and right until they miraculously recovered. A recipe that wins kids over, but any adult sees how this gets old very quickly. The Warrior would have probably been a gimmick to reach more adults. Unbriddled aggression, much less enemy offense, bright colors, rambling promos.

And I am pretty sure that Ricky Steamboat, Randy Savage, Mr Perfect, Bam Bam Bigelow and Sting would disagree with your 6 moves, Tai.

tl,dr: A tired formula is a tired formula, and even a roid ruled decade like the 80s had not only 6 moves.^^

by **Old_Man_Tai** Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:00 pm

I dont get your hogan argument. As you yourself pointed out, Hogan was over as fuck with a limited moveset, and hell, as a heel in the 90s he still got over and drew money.

A varied move set is fine if it has a point and purpose. Lesnars limited moveset is all he needs to have entertaining matches, especially with this new mstch formula for him.

Moves that mean something are great, having more moves for the sake of having more moves is just pointless.

As for njpw caboose, i wasnt talking about them. They are an entirely different style than wwe and i dont like to compare the two

by Sponsored content