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Post by Mystery Dragon Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:48 am

Alright calm down dude, I'm shocked not pissed off.
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Post by Old_Man_Tai Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:54 am

I am calm. Just think people are over reacting and being salty.

This is probably just a one month throw away thing to reward jinder for seven years of service, and save a bigger title match for ppvs closer to Summer Slam.

Rather than be all "fuck smackdown" about it, why not just enjoy that a long term worker is getting a rare chance to shine for once, instead of getting pissed?

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Post by Mystery Dragon Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:57 am

Hey remember when one guy spoke for all of us? Oh he doesn't? Well clearly he does cause one guy said Fuck smack down while the rest was surprise and suddenly were all being salty.
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Post by Old_Man_Tai Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:06 am

I am well within my right to write a response based off one specific reaction.

Besides, do you ever read this thread? The wrestling thread is salty as fuck on a near constant basis. It was getting salty as recent as this morning This year alone, the only thing weve all been able to agree on is that braun strowman smashing things is the best.


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Post by SleeperAgent94 Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:10 am

Braun SMASHING ROMAN MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry.

On a side note. I was thinking that the treatment of Sami seems very familiar to how Vince treated Rey Mysterio back in the early 2000's. Sami and Rey have some similarities. Neither really fit the mold of a champ that Vince has, yet both are extremely over with the crowds. Both have experiences in indy/ rival promotions where they made their name big.

I'm interested to see if this is history repeating itself and Vince is jobbing out Sami like he had rey booked a decade back.

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Post by Mystery Dragon Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:12 am

And I'm well within my right to call yo out for saying y'all when its one person and implying were all doing it.

I do but don't see how that addresses the point I made, for one people disagree with things and it wouldn't be much of a discussion if it was everybody nodding there heads and agreeing on everything, we would need one person for that. 2. the word salty is thrown out so much I pretty much laugh at the use since it literally means "Oh you didn't like this? You salty"
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Post by Old_Man_Tai Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:40 am

SleeperAgent94 wrote:Braun SMASHING ROMAN MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry.

On a side note. I was thinking that the treatment of Sami seems very familiar to how Vince treated Rey Mysterio back in the early 2000's. Sami and Rey have some similarities. Neither really fit the mold of a champ that Vince has, yet both are extremely over with the crowds. Both have experiences in indy/ rival promotions where they made their name big.

I'm interested to see if this is history repeating itself and Vince is jobbing out Sami like he had rey booked a decade back.


Did...did we watch an entirely different Ruthless Aggression era, or did you just not watch and learn about that time through IWC chat rooms?

This idea keeps being floated around that Rey was just a total jobber back in his early WWE times and frankly, it's bullshit. Early on, Rey was treated like a solid upper mid-card, lower main eventer on Smackdown. Within a few weeks, he got a one on one win over Kurt Angle, and, as part of the Smackdown Six (along with Angle, Benoit, Edge, Eddie, and Chavo), would often main event Smackdowns within just a few months of his debut.

His first PPV had him face Kurt Angle in the opening match at Summerslam, his second PPV appearance had him and Edge face Angle and Benoit in the finals of the smackdown tag title tournament in a match of the year contending match. Him and Edge even won those belts in the main event of Smackdown in a 2/3 falls match just a few weeks later, maybe 4 months after his debut.

In 2003, his second year in WWE, he was in the opening match at Wrestlemania 19, won the crusierweight title twice, and his first run lasted several months, and he was showcased in several great matches, not only for the cruiserweight title, but teaming with Billy Kidman to face the WGTT for the tag belts, had involvement in big stories involving the WWE Title with Brock Lesnar and Big Show, compete in a wwe title contender tournament that nearly saw him defeat Undertaker, and even fought Brock Lesnar for the WWE title at one point.

2004 to 2005 saw Mysterio continue to consistently float around the main event scene, compete for the US title, win the crusierweight titles a couple more times, then win the tag titles twice, once with RVD, and once with Eddie Guerrero, which led to a fued between them that was basically the number 2 fued on smackdown, behind only the world title feud.

Post eddie's death saw Rey pushed as a main eventer, win the tag titles once more with Batista, win the royal rumble, and win the world title at wrestlemania and hold it for 4 months, beating guys like Kurt Angle and JBL before losing it.

Then he had his feud with Chavo that saw big matches on PPV and main events on Smackdown, including two I Quit matches. From 2007 until he left in early 2014, the company did pull back on his main event status, mainly because of two wellness violations over that time period, as well as him having to take substantial time off over various injuries (including two times where he was gone for nearly a year each), but he still had various world title shots, on Smackdown/Raw and PPV, usually one to two a year, every year, until about 2012, won the IC Title twice, and won the World Title a second time for a brief period, and was consistently winning feuds and generally an upper midcarder.

You know where this bullshit about "Oh Rey was a jobber!" comes from? Its because of two things, in 2006, during his world title reign, he lost TWO non title matches during his feud with JBL. One against Mark Henry, (whom he defeated later in a world title match) and one to Great Khali (this is right after Khali debuted and was beating everybody, including the fucking Undertaker in his debut), so there is that, and the night in 2011, where he won the WWE title, only to be forced to defend and lose it to John Cena the very same night...which was admittedly stupid, and because WWE rushed a champion vs champion match with Punk and Cena because they had nothing else to offer, even though Rey vs Cena would have been fine.

So because of 3 fucking matches, Rey gets portrayed as if he was a pathetic jobber his entire 13 years with WWE.

Well, No, YOU'RE wrong! (YAY! MY CATCHPHRASE!), because, as I just pointed out, it was goddamned different.

Yes, I'm aware I'm ranting, and I'm sorry, but I'm really sick of seeing this accusation get tossed around all the time, not just here, but all over, like Rey was just some other poor star that deserved better than getting screwed by that mean WWE. Rey was given star treatment from the get go, and it took ten years, multiple surgeries, two wellness policy violations, and an influx of new talent before he finally started losing his shine and being made to lose more often.

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Mystery Dragon wrote:And I'm well within my right to call yo out for saying y'all when its one person and implying were all doing it.

I do but don't see how that addresses the point I made, for one people disagree with things and it wouldn't be much of a discussion if it was everybody nodding there heads and agreeing on everything, we would need one person for that. 2. the word salty is thrown out so much I pretty much laugh at the use since it literally means "Oh you didn't like this? You salty"


And as for you, stop expecting me to follow logic. You know damn well using logic ruins my gimmick, brother.

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Post by Mystery Dragon Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:52 am

Old_Man_Tai wrote:
Mystery Dragon wrote:And I'm well within my right to call yo out for saying y'all when its one person and implying were all doing it.

I do but don't see how that addresses the point I made, for one people disagree with things and it wouldn't be much of a discussion if it was everybody nodding there heads and agreeing on everything, we would need one person for that. 2. the word salty is thrown out so much I pretty much laugh at the use since it literally means "Oh you didn't like this? You salty"


And as for you, stop expecting me to follow logic. You know damn well using logic ruins my gimmick, brother.

Never, Logic is my Gimmick.
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Post by Old_Man_Tai Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 am

...your game is deep...I can respect that.

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