Re: Original Moves

by **Old_Man_Tai** Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:46 am

The problem with "creating a new move" is that the vast majority of moves in wrestling can't be done, at all, without the help of the other person.

So a character being like "I CAN DO A TRIPLE FRONT FLIP PILEDRIVER" is basically total bullshit, because even the single flip piledriver ONLY works because the guy taking the piledriver is doing a backflip at the same time.

So far there hasn't been a move named here that hasn't already been done. Creating a completely original move is pretty much impossible, because your limited by what the human body can do, and wrestlers have pretty much already discovered the best moves and variations years ago.

Why do a triple front flip in a match anyway? That's just being flashy for no reason.

But ignore me, that's just a pet peeve of mine. It's like seeing a guy do a Shooting Star Legdrop when it just doing a simple Legdrop would do the exact same damage. Flash for the sake of Flash is why a lot of indy wrestling now is just acrobatic contests with little story and virtually no selling.

Da has a point though. Lotta people come here having never watched any wrestling and no interest in it, but then want to do wrestling (not just hentai) matches, and end up completely lost and throwing random moves out with no rhyme or reason.

You don' HAVE to be a wrestling fan to enjoy this place, but I would suggest, for those that want their non-hentai matches to be good and entertaining and make sense, do your homework, study up, and learn what you can about moves and selling and proper move escalation in a match. That will do good.

by Lotuswarrior Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:18 am

Old_Man_Tai wrote:The problem with "creating a new move" is that the vast majority of moves in wrestling can't be done, at all, without the help of the other person.

So a character being like "I CAN DO A TRIPLE FRONT FLIP PILEDRIVER" is basically total bullshit, because even the single flip piledriver ONLY works because the guy taking the piledriver is doing a backflip at the same time.

So far there hasn't been a move named here that hasn't already been done. Creating a completely original move is pretty much impossible, because your limited by what the human body can do, and wrestlers have pretty much already discovered the best moves and variations years ago.

Why do a triple front flip in a match anyway? That's just being flashy for no reason.

But ignore me, that's just a pet peeve of mine. It's like seeing a guy do a Shooting Star Legdrop when it just doing a simple Legdrop would do the exact same damage. Flash for the sake of Flash is why a lot of indy wrestling now is just acrobatic contests with little story and virtually no selling.

Da has a point though. Lotta people come here having never watched any wrestling and no interest in it, but then want to do wrestling (not just hentai) matches, and end up completely lost and throwing random moves out with no rhyme or reason.

You don' HAVE to be a wrestling fan to enjoy this place, but I would suggest, for those that want their non-hentai matches to be good and entertaining and make sense, do your homework, study up, and learn what you can about moves and selling and proper move escalation in a match. That will do good.

I get what you're saying about the unneeded flash on moves, and the fact that pretty much all moves have reached a point where they can be moddified has reached its end. Though one in a blue moon, someone will do something unique.

by LtLukas Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:40 am

There is nothing new under the sun.

Some moves, when executed, look goddamn spectacular. The problem is, as Tai mentioned in his ranting, some moves require the cooperation of the other wrestler. We can discuss winners and losers in the PMs, but inside the ring two women (or a man and a woman, or two monsters) are genuinely trying to beat each other. So when you try to pull off a move, like for example a Jumping Implant DDT or Mickie James' finisher, there is no reason for Jessica's opponent to help Jessica. Even if I wanted to pull it off, I feel like it would be denying my RP partner's agency.

Furthermore, things can be hard to visualize. I am guilty of this as well, but sometimes writing here on the board lacks any sort of clarity. I don't mind flash or razzle dazzle as long as it makes sense. If someone has Jessica in a figure four leg lock she is not going to be able to spank her unless her arms magically grew by two feet. I read some threads and just think, how on earth is that supposed to work? There is a lot of creativity going on here going on here but I would warn people not to go overboard. Keeping track of where everyone's hands are can be a bit rough, especially over the course of a week or a month or however long a thread lasts, but let's put in an effort people.

Man, I feel like Tai now. Here I am, railing at nothing in particular.

by **Old_Man_Tai** Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:56 am

LtLukas wrote:

Man, I feel like Tai now. Here I am, railing at nothing in particular.

...I know its in my name but...am I really considered just the crazy old man of the board who rants about nothing, even when he has a point and is trying to educate?

by rhapsody Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:08 am

Old_Man_Tai wrote:
LtLukas wrote:

Man, I feel like Tai now. Here I am, railing at nothing in particular.

...I know its in my name but...am I really considered just the crazy old man of the board who rants about nothing, even when he has a point and is trying to educate?

by **Old_Man_Tai** Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:22 am

One day, when I leave this place for good, that picture will become my legacy of my time here.

by kerflubble Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:05 pm

Sometimes a lack of variety of finishers can be a positive thing. Establishing certain moves as universal big deals.

by **Old_Man_Tai** Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:06 am

This is true.

There isn't THAT many variations of the Piledriver and its respected as a match ender...most of the time.

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