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When pro wrestling began to suck...

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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by Old_Man_Tai on Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:54 pm

Im confused by your wording, you admit that RVD is repetitive in every match, but your excited watching a repetitive, usually boring matchup because he might do one different move? Actually, forget I said that, your right. I "marked out" a couple weeks back when he attempted that 450 splash, so I actually see your point on this.

Ryback is....really bad, but I will admit that I usually end up laughing in his matches, due to how easily he tosses people about XD. I like Lord Trainbert better. I thought they had somewhere to go with Tensai losing on a story or character way, but I guess he will just job to the stars and beat the young dudes. Still, has matches with Sheamus have been good, his match with Cena was good, and that revamped Baldo Bomb of his looks way better then the old one.

These new comments about Cena....these I agree with. He is just like RVD (And Kitten was right on the ball about that) in that, unless its a giant Rock vs Cena match, he usually cannot stay serious during a fued. He has to start cracking his jokes and being all kid friendly and then you lose the idea that its a big match. There is three Cena promo styles. Average Cena, who is kid friendly and bland. "Having some fun out there" Cena, which is where all his funniest promos come from, like the Star Wars promo after No Way Out, and "Serious" Cena, who is rarely seen but is ALWAYS good when he comes out. Unlike RVD, who just goes "Meh" at EVERY SINGLE SITUATION.

But yeah, Ive noticed Cena is a hypocrite. Like after Punk lost the belt to Del Rio at Summerslam cause Del Rio used the MITB to cash in, Cena claimed that Del Rio couldn't win on his own and couldn't "win like a man", which is why Cena wanted the shot. That night, Cena vs Punk, no. 1 contender match, and Cena wins because Nash interferes and attacks Punk. So its bad for Del Rio to be sneaky and win that way, but it's totally cool for Cena to win an important match with outside help and never bring it up? I would say that Cena has lost to Rock, Johnny Ace, and Tensai, but only Rock was Clean, and out of 110 matches this year, he has won about 103 of them.

WWE is trying to build new main eventers, but the issue is that it takes time. Especially in todays WWE where fans dont remember anything from the week before. They are trying to literally squeeze the last few possible drops of blood out of the stone before they have to discard it. The problem is that the new guys aren't being treated seriously by their company. Zack Ryder kicked ass and worked his way to his level....then was given a horrible "injury", couldn't work, and they gave his spotlight to Santino....who, while funny, can't work his way out of a paper bag.

Sin Cara Negro is actually a better wrestler then Sin Cara himself. XD. But yeah, WWE wanted to rehash the "Mexi-cools" gimmick it seems. Stereotypes.

Genesis sucked, despite lasting all of 1 week.

Swagger DOES have talent, but again, all he does is make people think of Angle. Plus the guy cannot get any crowd reaction whatsoever. His cashing in against Jericho, who people hated at the time, was so mediocre that it was funny. And it shows the point, whenever a new star wins the world title, people don't take them seriously and don't react. It's occured with Miz, Del Rio, Swagger, Ziggler, for those 20 minutes, and others in the past. Daniel Bryan has made real headway, thanks to being crazy awesome and "YES!", but Sheamus is the only new guy, (and yes he is a new guy, its only been 3 years), that has really managed to connect with the crowd since his face turn and, despite the backlash against him from Mania, has elected huge responses from the crowd and puts on good matches as well. His 2/3 falls match with Daniel Bryan from Extreme Rules for example, was one of the best matches of the night.

Kitten, your wrong about Harrier being wrong about everything, he has good points. He just needed someone able to debate him so he can prove and further explain his points, which is the point of debating. You are right on the money with RVD though, the guy has been doing the same "Im stoned" gimmick for years and his big flaw that keeps him out of the main event is that he cannot sell a storyline to save his life. He honestly just does not give a single shit about what he is doing or whats going on as long as he gets paid. Combine that with his refusal to job...seriously, how often does he actually lose, ESPECIALLY in high profile feuds? I only can think of his losses to Orton when he left WWE, and his lost to Jeff Hardy at Bound for Glory 2010. The guy never wants to go out on his back, and, when he won the belt, he even stated he wouldn't lose it to anyone who wasn't around in the Attitude era....that is really great RVD...way to be team player. RVD, and Flair, are the reasons AJ Styles career was sent back a year.

And for your comment on Cena, HE HAS IMPROVED. Seriously, his match against Punk at MITB 2011 was Match of the Year for a reason, and after over 10 years in the company, you cannot just write it off as Punk carrying him the whole match. Cena has earned respect, and honestly deserves it.

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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by Old_Man_Tai on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:08 pm

[quote="TiefBlau":zo6nvwf2]One thing I have to disagree with is Cena's reactions getting louder. That's incredibly false. His reactions have been growing colder by the week. He no longer entices a crowd to boo him fiercely or cheer him enthusiastically. There will be the tiny "Lets go Cena-Cena Sucks" chant every now and then, but it's becoming to be that the crowd doesn't seem to care anymore, which is VERY bad. Also Merchandise sales? False. Cena drawing more ratings? False


The only person that has outdrawn Cena is merch in recent years was Jeff Hardy. Before he got for what was, depending on your view, an unfair arrest for a one time mistake, or a deserved arrest for letting his issues get too far and getting off really easy for it in the end.


Since then, The only other person that could come close to Cena's sales is Orton or Punk. Considering Cena sells everything from shirts to pants to condoms, and they mainly sell shirts, I find it hard to imagine either of them managing to top his sales.

As for drawing ratings, lets see how high a show without Cena does on ratings. Smackdown hasn't topped Raw's ratings in years, if they ever did, and TLC 2011, the one PPV last year with no Cena on it, didn't exactly sell like gangbusters.

....What the hell are gangbusters anyway? Has anyone actually sold one? Were they popular back in the before time? the long long ago?

Also, why don't wrestlers where different color outfits anymore like they used to? 2003, Triple H had blue, green, red, black, and I think at one point a white pair of trunks to where to the ring, wrestlers also used to where some sort of special outfit or color to the ring at Wrestlemania, to symbolize how important it was and all that. Now everybody just wheres the smae generic colors all the time and nobody pops or stands out at all. Except Ziggles, and thats cause he has blond hair.

and One Mooooore Thing! (Jackie chan adventures represent yo!) Can we get Heath Slater a manager? His voice is horrifying.

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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by UrbanChamp on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:57 pm

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Pro wrestling, the fake kind, has been fake since before the 1930s. The 1930s is just when it finally became hugely popular. for more then 30 years before then, Pro Wrestling (again, the fake kind, not the real greco roman kind that you only see in the Olympics and jr. high to high school kids do.....which is pretty fucked up when you think about it.) was a large staple of traveling carnival shows. Bare Knuckle boxing was illegal, but people ate it up when they saw it, so carnival workers started hosting their warped version of greco roman wrestling, with more slams then actual rolling and such, and would travel around the country using it as part of the show. It was scripted because otherwise, you risk injuring one or both your workers and then you lose a big attraction, keep in mind, this is when traveling carnivals and circuses didn't exactly make much coin. Eventually it got bigger and bigger, especially when TV started getting widespread and tv stations had to show something on the air, Wrestling was a popular choice for tv stations because it was cheaper to film and light then other sports and shows and drew a good number of watchers. A fair amount of the "inside language" of wrestling, which is most likely worthless now since everyone has known "the big secret" since 1985, originated with Carny Speak. The former WWE wrestler "Kizarny"'s whole gimmick was a tribute of sorts to those old days. Though he only lasted 3 weeks. Overall point, Pro wrestling has had a very long history and it has always been fake. If there was a time when Pro wrestling was real, none of us, nor our fathers, were around for it. Maybe our grandparents.....maybe. Still, no reason to let that ruin your enjoyment of watching it. I still watch and enjoy the shows today. Of course, Im in the minority, especially around here. Funny how a wrestling themed forum has so many people that are not interested, or outright dislike/hate pro wrestling, despite doing it in every post they do here. Unless they only post in the highly ill decided and really stupid Touhou forum.

HUGS YOU!!!!!!!!!

It's rare to find someone who knows about the old stuff like this!

Like wrestling, I'm also a very big fan of the history of boxing.

I can still watch pro wrestling, but I tend to be critical of what I see on mainstream shows in America. Indy feds, Japan, Mexico, that's a different story.

And the people who don't like the pro wrestling aspect of AFW are here for the boobs and ass.

As for RVD...I honestly thought he got boring way back in 2000. Every match he had with Jerry Lynn had good athleticism, but it was just the same shit.





[quote="TaiKamiya":vmugchzq]and One Mooooore Thing! (Jackie chan adventures represent yo!) Can we get Heath Slater a manager? His voice is horrifying.

Don't pick on him too badly. He's from West Virginia, he can't help where he was born and raised haha. He can get another crossface chickenwing for all I care, too. Speaking of that. Bob Backlund should seriously be a general manager! Seriously!

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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by Old_Man_Tai on Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:07 pm

XD Glad you approve. I don't know shit about boxing I'm afraid, but I have tried to learn what I could about pro wrestling. With the way WWE and TNA like to shift their own history around, its up to fans to try and keep things straight.

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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by Harrier on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:51 am

RvD and Jeff Hardy both do this "I am stoned" gimmick very well, with Hardy even raising the bar with being a "stoned in the main event* pothead <img src=" title="Wink" /> . Loved how Sting put him quickly out of his misery, you could see how pissed Sting was when he backed down to the ramp. RvD in WWE was indeed not able to job for anyone, but in TNA he put Roode over recently and also lost to Storm? in the BFG series. Hardy could be the second big guy in WWE right now, which would have Matt Hardy(Fatt Lardy, that's hillarious although mean in once. Don't know if laughing or pittying the guy) brought a place in the company too.

I like Slater. Maybe it's cause how he jobbed to the stars recently(big markout moment with all of them, especially Sid Vicious and Animal), and his promo after loosing to Si Cara is just great("how am I supossed to wrassle when it's dark? He's just this tall with doing all his flippedy doos, the mexican superhero. I'm so mad right now! Angry!" LOL). He's probably a very safe worker, wrestling the legends and Hart at Summerslam. He is in no way main event material, but can be an annoying midcard champion with fluke wins. This one man band thing is really funny, maybe a new Honky Tonk Man or Jeff Jarrett? For a manager, hm, maybe a new manager in the style of Jimmy Hart? AW?

People who really hate Cena have probably given up booing him after WM, so all that is left is the voices of children and younger girls. I felt really sorry for the guy at ONS 2006? where the ECW fans were really brutal to him. Ok, they shat on everyone(except Angle who owned them big time with "your momma told me how", LOL), but wow, that was harsh. Maybe Cena should really be drafted to Smackdown? It's taped, it's fridays where children have no school the next day, and parents would have an event for their kids at the evening. Halls are empty anyway for SD, so you could solve 2 problems in once.

Lord Trainberts physique is indeed astounding, the man looks like a walking barrel. His match with Sheamus was really good, and it was fresh. If Sheamus wouldn't get that unbearable Galactus push, I would be ok with him I guess.

The King of Kings Barabarian King outfit of HHH alone would have been worth the money for the event, even when Motorhead played their own song wrong cause Lenny had made an RvD of himself hours before^^. That's something I really miss too, the trousers of Rick rude had more charisma than any guy in palin black trunks


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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by Alexandra on Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:08 am

...unbearable Galactus push? Dare I ask? >_>

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Post by Harrier on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:33 am

[quote="Alexandra":1tg43ikf]...unbearable Galactus push? Dare I ask? >_>

Sure.

Cena gets the Superman push. He goes out there, gets beaten up, returns after bathing in the sun/gets the Kryptonite away/Insert Superman weakness here to win the day, just like Superman. Superman has several extremely powerfull opponents that usually appear out of nowhere(Doomsday/Darkseid/Brainiac) beside his run of the mill supervillain opponents to vanquish. Cena has his own opponents to appear out of nowhere(Rock/Lesnar) and the poor slobs he defeats regularly on Raw. All in all, Superman is supremely powerful, but sometimes finds a guy that is his equal to him or even defeats him. And like Superman, he doesn't learn much from his beatings and is still the goody two shoes guy, even as he kind of fears Doomsday and respects Darkseid to a certain degree, as Cena does with the rock and Lesnar.

Galactus is a being who has several superman(Silver Surfer) like creatures under his command cause he's so powerful that he can do that. Not even the fantastic four can challenge him with a measure of success, they have to call other heroes and villains like doctor doom to help them, and even the beyonder fear him. Sheamus is the same. He kicks out at one, he no sells finishers and signature moves. Notable exception was the fight with tensai last SD, but at every other opportunity, he is basically Galactus against guys like AdR, Rhodes and Ziggler, who job nonstop to him.

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Re: When pro wrestling began to suck...

Post by Alexandra on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:41 am

I'm just curious, Harrier. How often do you read comics? XD


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Post by Harrier on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:39 am

Not so often anymore since a few years, the last arc I fully read was House of M from Marvel, I started with Age of Apocalypse.

When I refer to Superman, I refer to the Superman who defeated guys like Darkseid toe to toe, was a member of JLA, has kind of a crush for Wonderwoman and was killed by Doomsday. I indeed do not know if he was downpowered or killed again, but Superman kind of seemed like the character to me that gets rather up than downgraded.

When refering to Galactus, I refer to the being that tried to eat the earth and was stopped by Fantastic Four and other heroes, had surfer as his herald before switching to Firelord and others.

I could change Galactus with Onslaught if you like that more, first no selling the Juggernaut and punching him across America, later no selling Apocalypse, Doctor Doom and Sue Richards to capture Franklin Richards?

Or are you asking if I'm a nerd, nit picker and complainer? I certainly am. Or if I know Superman is from DC and not from Marvel if that is the point you're asking for? Yes, I do. I am pretty sure that there are several people who see my view on Hero/Wrestler comparisons as debatable, but that's ok with me <img src=" title="Wink" />


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Post by Bluemouse on Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:45 pm

I think what Alex is getting at is that it's apparent that you don't know much about comics.

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